SCOTS Project - www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk Document : 1378 Title : Conversation 31: Male from Glasgow and female from Scottish Borders Author(s): N/A Copyright holder(s): SCOTS Project Content label: This document contains strong or offensive language Audio transcription F943: //So [CENSORED: forename], [laugh].// M944: //What questions, what questions// have always been at the back of your mind that you wanted to say but [CENSORED: forename]'s always been present? //[laugh]// F943: //I don't know. Well, here, here's a decent enough question for you, [CENSORED: forename]. How do they build bridges?// //I honestly don't know.// M944: //Mm er.// Bridges? F943: Yeah. M944: Well they use wood. F943: Well, no, //cause i-// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// F943: //We we talked// about normal bridges and we figured you know you could just have loads of people standing on each others' shoulders as scaffolding before scaffolding was in fact invented, but then what about, like, the Forth Road Bridge? //How did they, how on earth?// M944: //Is this for the// tape, or do you seriously //mean it?// F943: //No, I seriously mean it.// [laugh] Cause you know, how do they get the things down to the bottom of the sea? //Without squashing// M944: //Well,// F943: people, in their scuba-diving suits? M944: Well they they make foundations first, F943: How? Concrete doesn't set underwater. M944: No, but they make sure the concrete's hardened first, and then they settle it down, and from there it kind of becomes a bridge. And, oh, and and the Chinese were the first to apparently make the kind of bridge that, you know how you put, slot, slot, slot, slot, and one in the middle. F943: Mmhm M944: So it like kind of [?]tension[/?] //[?]against it[/?]// F943: //Yeah.// M944: So there you go. //[laugh]// F943: //Oh! [laugh]// //[laugh] Why do you// M944: //I don't know anything else about bloody bridges! [inhale]// F943: know so much about bridges anyway? //You're the first person that's been able to give me any// M944: //[cough]// //[laugh]// F943: //answers on that.// M944: [inhale] Oh, I think I'm forced to think of something, cause we're being recorded, otherwise I would have looked at you and said "tard", and walked out of the room. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// You wouldn't. I was the first person to show you the wonders of the "nedagotchi". //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] nedagotchi?// F943: Do you not remember, nedagotchi? M944: What's the, like a //tamagotchi?// F943: //It was like a ned// but it's like a little, it it floats and you make it talk to you. M944: You never //[inaudible]// F943: //I did.// M944: I've never seen that. F943: I definitely did. It was the same day that we looked up the [laugh] world's largest penis. M944: I was not //there!// F943: //You were, that was the// //first time I met you! [laugh]// M944: //Why would I want to look at the world's largest penis? Think about it!// //It'll just make me feel inadequate.// F943: //Cause you didn't believe it.// M944: Eh? F943: You didn't believe it; you were like "Na, na, n-, na, no-one's got one that long!" //[laugh]// M944: //Was there a picture of it?// F943: There was. M944: I'm so tempted to check right now. //But hundreds of porn sites will// F943: //You, [inaudible].// //Clicking// M944: //come up.// F943: noises, [CENSORED: forename]. M944: I know what it was, it was the guy called "Long Dong Silver". F943: That's it. M944: And it was fake; i- they proved it. The guy needed a cast. I- it was it was and the women even said that they were in on it. So I can rest easy now. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //What?// M944: //[laugh]// [laugh] //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// You worry me, [CENSORED: forename]. You strange boy. M944: Ah, and and, yeah, your hair looks very nice. F943: Thank you. [laugh] It was pink. It washed out. //An kinda went// M944: //It actually looks// like it's meant to be like that. F943: It went ginger. //And I just// M944: //Mm?// F943: couldn't bring myself to leave the house //ginger, so I// M944: //Hm// F943: sent my friends to the chemist to get me new hair dye and dyed it purple. M944: And, when did, who done [CENSORED: forename]'s? The F943: She did. M944: Yeah? Oh she, oh that's //right, she always does it. Mm?// F943: //I did this at home, before I came here.// M944: Sh- I was totally going to say she effed up, but yeah, that's allowed. //[inhale]// F943: //[tut]// //Are you gonna, she's gonna listen to this, you know?// M944: //[laugh] I was gonna, [laugh]// I don't care. I told her anyway. She screwed up ma one. Well, she didn't screw it up; she done it right, but it was barely kind of noticeable, and I fried my scalp for an hour. F943: [laugh] //[laugh]// M944: //And it ha- really never had an effect.// F943: I told one of the boys in my corridor whose got like kinna strawberry blonde hair that it wasn't permanent, and dyed all the tips of his hair pink. M944: An, it was? F943: It was, it was a bright Barbie-pink. M944: Well I suppose he could just cut it though. //And he'll have the last laugh.// F943: //Well no, cause he loves his hair.// He's very, you know, he won't shower for three days, but he'll still fix his hair before he goes out. M944: Did [CENSORED: forename] show you the earrings that I got her? F943: No. M944: No! F943: No. M944: Cra- aw! There they are. F943: Which ones? M944: I can't move. [laugh] F943: [laugh] //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //Those ones!// //[laugh] I'm afraid to stand// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh] That was a very nice// M944: //up. I can't. These ones.// //[laugh]// F943: //little dance. [laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] I feel like a [inaudible]// //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// [laugh] Very tasteful. But yes, very nice earrings nonetheless. And I very much liked the card. M944: Oh yeah! //I forgot about that. Yeah.// F943: //It's in the living room.// M944: That took bloody //ages.// F943: //I couldn't// find a mate card. M944: It took ages finding one, that's the problem. I'm gonna, do you know what? F943: What? M944: Move up, because I'm gonna sit here, cause that's too uncomfortable. Rrr F943: Ow [throat] So? M944: That's five minutes. //We've covered bridges,// F943: //[laugh]// //Bridges. [laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// F943: A tiny dance. Earrings. M944: Your hair. F943: My hair, your hair, my friend's hair, [CENSORED: forename]'s hair. [inhale] [exhale] [laugh] Erm How was [laugh] your day, [CENSORED: forename]? M944: This sucks. We're gonna have to say something normal. F943: Something normal? M944: Because it, aye, //so.// F943: //Have a intellectual conversation?// //About?// M944: //About.// F943: Christian ethics. //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] What// if the person listening to this is a Christian? //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// Then we'll talk about Christian ethics and sexuality. M944: No. I think that'll be [?]tripping[/?] to, kind of like stuff you can't talk about, she said. F943: Ah, I suppose. //Apart from the fact that my lecturer// M944: //[inhale] What// the hell [?]like a key[/?] is in your hand? Show me your phone. Oh, no sound effects. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh] Said to turn them off.// M944: Put it on silent. F943: No, cause it makes this really horrible "Ding-di-di-ding-ding" noise when it opens, and M944: And that'll just ruin the //research, yeah, right.// F943: //It will.// Bye. Reset Jesus. M944: What what one's this? This is the one //[?]at the front[/?].// F943: //It's great. It's// got erm a two mega-pixel camera in it. Erm, a flash, which you can use as a torch, an MP3 player, ehm, a video player, a video recorder, a voice recorder and a dictophone. M944: Ma one's just crap. F943: An I can plug it into a TV and play my videos through the TV. M944: I know what phone this is now. It's on, it's aw! Och, it's on TV, basically. [laugh] //[laugh]// F943: //It's like brand new; it's great.// It only came out like three weeks ago. M944: I'm gonna need something new. Do you know how much it cost though? F943: It cost me nothing. M944: Yeah, but, like, the F943: It's like two hundred and fifty pounds. M944: And was it with a contract though? F943: Yeah. M944: It was? F943: It was free with the contract. M944: What have you got though? Is it pay as you go? No, it's a contract cause it's through [CENSORED: forename]'s. But F943: Yeah. M944: The, ah, what was I going to say again? The actual monthly amount. What do you get //it for?// F943: //Twenty-five// pounds, and I get a thousand free text messages and a hundred and twenty free minutes. M944: Oh shi-, oop. [laugh] //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// No, she said, she said swearing was allowed as long as it wasn't forced. M944: Ah, and that was totally unintentional. //[laugh] No, but. But anyway, or,// F943: //[laugh]// M944: it makes sense now. Cause I got an email for about a hundred pound off your next bill, and [CENSORED: forename] kept saying "Get it, take it, take it", but the catch was you were tied in for another contract for another year. //And I told [CENSORED: forename], 02// F943: //Aw, right.// M944: are crap for deals. F943: I'm tied in for a year, and that's it. M944: Well you can get new ones that can get you six months off, so I'm thinking of going for that. F943: Mm they're great. Let's take a photo of you, [CENSORED: forename]. M944: No! //[laugh] No.// F943: //[laugh]// //Why? Are you not pretty enough yet?// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //Well it's true. Every time anyone tries to// M944: //[laugh] I hate phones.// //No, do you know why? [laugh] No, no. No, no, no. Listen!// F943: //take a picture of you, it's like "No, no, no, wait till I take my glasses off!" [laugh]// M944: The reason is is because you've gotta sit there for, no-one every takes a phone quick, a picture quickly. //They hold it there// F943: //But I can cause it's got// //a camera. [laugh]// M944: //they hold it there and they just look for ages, and you've gotta stand there and grin like an idiot.// //And I don't like grinning like an idiot.// F943: //Hold on then; we'll stick [inaudible]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //See I'm grinning like an idiot! [laugh] It's li- [laugh]// F943: //[?]It's gone[/?]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh] Wait! Let me drop the idiot look.// F943: //[laugh]// M944: And then then I can, then I'll take //the picture. [laugh]// F943: //Okay, drop the idiot look.// M944: Wait! It takes concentration. [laugh] //[laugh] I mean it.// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //Wait, wait, wait, wait.// //Okay.// F943: //I'm I'm w- I'm waiting, I'll// M944: Oh wait, keep it ready. That's me. The idiot's gone. [laugh] //[inhale] You can take it now.// F943: //[laugh]// [laugh][camera click] M944: [?]Try again.[/?] [laugh] F943: [laugh] M944: [laugh] No. F943: [laugh] //[Tut] Aw, it went blurry.// M944: //Okay.// Eh? F943: It went blurry. M944: Okay. I can only do it with a straight face. That's it. F943: Mm, stick you the right way round. //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] Stop it!// F943: Aw it was a good one. M944: That's alright. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh] That'll tha- that'll do.// //If I had hair I would flick it at you.// M944: //[groan]// Och, bollocks. [throat] It's actually grown quite a bit. F943: What? M944: Has it grow-, it's grown quite a bit. //Have you had it// F943: //I know.// M944: cut again? Like to neaten it? //[?]A rinse out[/?]// F943: //Uh-huh// M944: I thought so. //Cause// F943: //I have to have it cut like every two// //weeks, I mean it// M944: //that's what I mean, no it's// //cause// F943: //But I'm getting a bit of a mullet now.// M944: No, no, it actually works, because see see when you get it cut again like that, //it's it's neatened// F943: //Mmhm// M944: it up, so it actually looks like a really expensive haircut now, so. //That's quite good.// F943: //Good stuff!// //I'm growing it back in.// M944: //But.// Mm? F943: I'm growing it back in. M944: Is your mum happy [laugh] with it, cause she goes mad? //Like when she// F943: //No.// M944: dyes her hair. F943: No. See, since I've left home, my parents have suddenly become overwhelmed with this sense of calm. M944: [laugh] Yeah, right! //[inaudible]// F943: //No, really.// M944: Yeah? F943: My Dad, like, I changed contract and phone provider, erm, and spent five hundred pounds in the first three weeks of University. //Erm// M944: //Right.// F943: And then told my Dad, and he was like, "Oh, good". M944: He didn't care? F943: No. He didn't even, he //didn't even shout.// M944: //Well five hundred pound// is not that much, for, your first three weeks. F943: Yeah but I //I have now// M944: //You've gotta get settled in.// F943: when I work out my budget, I have erm like, [sniff] thirty pounds a week, until January. M944: Wait a moment. F943: And that's to buy me food, //and// M944: //That's insane. I spend that like in two days.// //Easy.// F943: //that's like// to buy me food and pay for my phone contract. [laugh] M944: You know what, I feel so guilty cause I'm totally goin go-karting, and it's gonna cost fifty quid and it's a day of joy //[laugh] for fifty pound!// F943: //I- it doesn't, it's not slowing me down any, I'm// still spending just as much as I used to. I'm just going to have to get a job. M944: And they, but your parents are the ones that are givin you thirty pound a week? F943: No, that's, I've got, erm, my Student Loan in one account and a standing order from each account of my budget every week. M944: Mm F943: But I just don't take my budget card out, and just spend all the money from the student //loan account.// M944: //That means you can't even go out or anything.// F943: Yes it does. M944: Mm? F943: Strongbow is on offer just now. //[laugh]// M944: //Do you know what you should do?// Oh no, [CENSORED: forename] wouldn't do that. I was goin to say, me and [CENSORED: forename] or [CENSORED: forename] even, just jump up to Stirling, and we should just go out, because you're not gonna get much, you're not gonna be able to go out. F943: Well, come up, any time you want, an on- //only on a weekend// M944: //I don't// F943: though cause I have to sign you in to people's rooms an M944: Oh shit, that's, no we don't need to stay overnight. Oh crap you would have to, wouldn't you? //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh] I would- I wouldn't expect// you guys to come home, you know, sober enough. [laugh] M944: Cause I just drive them up an drive them back. That actually would be a good weekend. //I've never been out in// F943: //You can// M944: flashy Stirling before. F943: Oh, it's bollocks. M944: No, I was gonna go there on Sunday cause there was like a a weekend kind of racing event happened there. F943: Yeah, we were gonna go to that. M944: How do you know th-, how did you know about that? F943: Cause, cause people in, you know, the University all, you know, own cars. //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] Yeah. But they have to be half decent.// F943: Students in cars, you know, and I admittedly live in the wo- the second worst halls in the campus, mines are still pretty nice, and people who stay in AKD are spending like pff two hundred pounds a week to stay in their halls and they have all got mummy and //daddy's flashy cars.// M944: //Two hundred a week?// F943: Yeah, they've all got en-suite. //An washing machines.// M944: //That's all// Each? But that's not that big a deal. //And it's two hundred quid.// F943: //It is, I have bare breeze-block walls.// M944: Really? F943: Yeah. M944: So it feels like a jail cell? F943: It is a jail cell. It's about the size of [CENSORED: forename]'s bathroom. M944: But all halls are roughly the same. They all have that same, it's a room not much bigger than this actually. Come to think of it. //But with a much// F943: //What?// My room wa- my room's nothing even compared to this. M944: It's bigger. F943: Smaller. Lots lots smaller. M944: So it's half F943: It's like from that wall to like the edge of like, //the thing, chest of drawers.// M944: //Do you have a window?// F943: Yes. M944: That's okay, [laugh], //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh] Do you have a window!// //An no it doesn't have bars in it.// M944: //[laugh]// [laugh] I was gonna s- [laugh] I'm not tryin to say that, [laugh] //[laugh] but// F943: //[laugh]// //Yes, I have a window! I do actually pay to live there.// M944: //But [laugh]// [inhale] I just thought they might have given you the basement. //[laugh] Sounds like it.// F943: //[laugh] [phone rings]// M944: [laugh] //That's gonna be her, I guarantee, Oh good, [?]I'll take what she says[/?].// F943: //[phone rings]// M944: Oh shit. I forgot. I was meant to be tellin ma mate I'm comin over. F943: [laugh] M944: Cause I've kinda double booked. //[laugh] I've told you// F943: //[laugh] What are you double booked for now?// M944: the life of a bum. Hones- see havin to plan your day, to do nothin. Or //like// F943: //Oh I know, I know.// I know, it's //[?]fuckin[/?] horrible.// M944: //And you give time slots,// [laugh] it's, but the thing is ehm I'm not sure if er I should go over here. F943: Well what are your choices for tonight? M944: Sort that thing out with F943: Psycho. M944: [laugh] //She's actually, she's// F943: //Psycho-crazed love girl.// M944: not a psycho. I- it's it's understandable because I've basically, it's been a relationship in anything, every way apart from we haven't spoke-, we haven't said it, we haven't said we're boyfriend and girlfriend. F943: So effectively you're ju- //you just, you know.// M944: //We do go out, we do all that.// Er, but, it's kinna been on the side. I- it's not been like a daily //thing.// F943: //Yeah, it's not// been a fixed //thing.// M944: //Yeah, because// when we went out to Bamboo it became like a pulling competition between her and me, like with other people. //I won.// F943: //Uh-huh// //Of c- [laugh] of course, [CENSORED: forename]!// M944: //[laugh] I beat her! [laugh]// I swear. And I told her it was a lot bloody harder, do you know why, there was a hell of lot of medical students in there that night and they're buying, cause th- there's no like [inaudible] girls kind of girls or anythin like that. And they were all like chattin away. Bought me drinks, all sorts, and it was it was great, an she's got these [?]darty[/?], arsey, kind of guys comin up to her, and I was like laughin. And I was like kind of walking away, and this is what was annoying: she realised that I didn't give a shit //when I was ta-, when I was doin it.// F943: //Uh-huh// M944: So she'd basically tell me "Where are you going?" to me. I'm like "Well, I'm gonna leave you to it." Then the guy's like lookin, thinkin "What the hell's goin on here?" You know, it's some kind of sordid love triangle they're //tryin to get me into!// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //So I looked at the guy and I said, [laugh] I shouldn't have said this, but I said like "It's alright, she's just ma mate, you can [?]bat a round[/?]."// //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// M944: And I walked off, and they guy was like "What?" like that, and I was like laughing. And then she grabbed me and, like, she kept walking me, I said "Look". She's basically tryin to get me jealous and I wasn't caring. //And// F943: //Mmhm// M944: but she was gettin jealous with me when I was walkin off with any other girl. But erm so it's it's it's obvious we're not goin out, if you //know what I mean.// F943: //Mmhm// M944: Cause relationships don't, you know, //work like that;// F943: //No.// M944: [laugh] you don't, you don't kind of do that kind of thing. //So.// F943: //Ah well// consider yourself lucky that you only have a semi-relationship. M944: Yeah, but //that's the way I wanted it.// F943: //Boyfriends suck.// M944: No, no, no th- that's the way I wanted it, because it's the only way that'll work, because, honestly, in my opinion, you cannot have a long relationship in anywhere between the ages of eighteen to twenty-four. F943: I I I would, I have to agree now that I've moved away from home and left my boyfriend two hundred miles away. M944: Oh you can't do long distance //either.// F943: //Oh God no!// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// It doesn't work. //so.// F943: //It just is// just the joyous decision on how to, you know, discuss it with him. M944: It's the same thing with er [CENSORED: forename]. She has a boyfriend back in Germany. F943: Mmhm M944: And she was, she's in the same halls as [CENSORED: forename]. That's how I got to know her. She totally cheated on her boyfriend with me. And it's like, it didn't make it a difference. She even said a- night before, I said "Oh where are you off to right now" when I was like visiting [CENSORED: forename] and she said "I'm off to phone my boyfriend" and all that, it's, she's probably still phoning him and it's like you c- I wouldn't really, I wouldn't, I wouldn't F943: There's a girl in our hall like that. She's from Luxembourg. But she says she's Dutch; she's a pain in the arse. But nonetheless. Her boyfriend is still back in Luxembourg. M944: Uh-huh F943: And she's shaggin everything she can see. M944: Really? //Bu- but.// F943: //And and phoning him and being like "Oh I miss you!" and// M944: [laugh] Have you not called her a slut? F943: Yes. M944: And yo-, aw right, is she //You like [laugh]// F943: //And ha, there's a guy that lives across the// hall from me and he's like my adopted best friend. //He's actually,// M944: //He's just trying to get into your pants.// //[laugh] He has? Ah, there you go.// F943: //he's very funny. And he's tried, and I've told him categorically, I've// told him categorically like six times just to fuck off, and he's got a girlfriend who's just turned sixteen; he's nearly nineteen. //Mm, anyway.// M944: //That's wrong.// //[laugh]// F943: //Since he's been at University, since he's been at// University, he's successfully shagged twenty-seven girls. M944: In that place? F943: Yes. M944: You see? //Don't trust.// F943: //[laugh] That's just like,// every time like this girl would come to his door, I would just be like "Oh, good morning, and you would be So-", and I'd go to say like "Sophie" or something and she would just be like "No, my name's Mel." Oh M944: It's like, that's, ah, that's what I'm talking about. //[?]Then you think[/?]// F943: //My best// friend came to visit me, and I haven't seen her in like five months and I saw her, like, she was over for the whole weekend from Friday till Sunday evening M944: Mmhm F943: and I saw her for a grand total of two hours. The rest of the time she was shagging that boy. M944: She? F943: Yes. M944: With that guy as well? F943: Yes. //And he's// M944: //[?]And[/?]// F943: gone, he's gone back home for a mid-semester break, and she goes to college //where he lives,// M944: //Uh-huh// F943: and his girlfriend asked him to come out last night, and he blew her off to go and have sex with her. M944: Well it's it's a good //choice.// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh] I respect the guy.// F943: //[laugh]// M944: But er F943: "I respect the guy", that's disgraceful, //[CENSORED: forename].// M944: //Oh no no.// I wouldn't s- put it that way. The only, ma only concern would be eh, see there was one guy, I nearly called you your name, ages ago and he used to go to Glasgow Uni in the halls as well, and he had like a chart of all his mates, kind of worrying, cause like serial killer kind of chart, of all their faces. F943: Oh M944: [inaudible] and I was like aw right. Naw, he was cool though. //eh, he was just like// F943: //[laugh]// M944: he had everyone's face up there and erm, it was kinda like, you know how you get an outbreak, and eh, it's like, the chart and or- the originator kind of person that's caused the disease? //Well it was like that.// F943: //Yeah.// M944: Said "This is herpes girl", and I looked at her and she was quite nice, and I was like "You're kidding? She's got a r-", and he was like "Yep". He said "She shagged him, [laugh] he shagged her, she shagged him", and it was like a criss-cross, F943: [laugh] M944: and he said "Now, all of this corner have herpes, through this girl." //[laugh] I was like// F943: //[laugh]// //Oh my God!// M944: //[laugh] Brilliant!// //[laugh] And it was [laugh]// F943: //[laugh] That's riveting.// M944: and and, see that's what I'm talkin about, that's what would always put me off like kinna going on a total rampa-, I'm, although now I've done it. //I don't think I've got herpes.// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh] I think I think you can generally avoid getting herpes by being generally quite safe about the entire situations.// M944: //[laugh]// //Yeah, you do, but.// F943: //Mm// M944: Oh, you know, like see any kind of oral contact can make you catch //herpes too.// F943: //I know.// M944: So that's what I'm talkin about. F943: I know. M944: And I like a bit of //[inaudible].// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] Well I had to say it!// //Y- just in case you weren't sure.// F943: //[laugh] Young ears! Young ears!// //Oh! [laugh]// M944: //Be quiet. I'm sure you've done it. Now listen. [laugh]// Listen! F943: My sister has to listen to this! M944: No she doesn't. Why would she want to listen to this? F943: That's a good point. M944: Mm, wait a moment. It's us. //She probably will.// F943: //She will listen to it.// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// F943: Woops! M944: Oh that's bullshit, but the thing is erm that's the mai- that's the main reason why I wouldn't. Cause that just sucks without that. //Literally, yes. [laugh]// F943: //[inaudible] [laugh]// M944: [laugh] //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// M944: It does it- it's crap without it. That's the more appropriate word. F943: [laugh] //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// But that's that's that's that's it, so no no kind of rampage for me. I I don't want to walk in and have a big fat bli-. I've always waited for her to walk in one day with a big fat blister and cold sore. It's never bloody happened. The amount of action she's got. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// M944: [laugh] //[laugh] Oh my God! I've realised. I could say so many things.// F943: //[laugh] No! No! [laugh]// M944: This is brilliant. And so many people will listen. //But yeah.// F943: //[laugh] Could just realised I can say so many things// M944: Yeah. //[laugh]// F943: //the masses will hear. [laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh] I'm not talkin about, I'm not talkin about [laugh]// F943: //[CENSORED: forename] becomes an evil genius all of a sudden.// M944: running the, you know, like doing a political speech here. What I mean is, you know, her. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //Say somethin about, say somethin about what she did.// //[laugh]// F943: //About what, [laugh] what she did. [laugh]// //Er what did, what did she do next.// M944: //What she did. [laugh]// F943: Erm. M944: Something bad, [inaudible] //[inaudible]// F943: //Somethin bad she did.// M944: Do you know what I've just realised? She, what did she say this was for? Somethin to do with accents, wasn't it? F943: Yeah. M944: Right, do you know how they, usually what they do is they have erm, like you know all this doing psychology, they tell people that this is a test to test a certain type of thing, //and it's// F943: //Yeah, a// M944: actually a cover? //For [inaudible] it's called something.// F943: //Na, you're not you're not really allowed to do// that any more. //Cause// M944: //How not?// F943: you know, i- in like nineteen-fifties psychology you could stick, there was this classic experiment where they stuck //people in then they el-// M944: //The electricity.// F943: they electrocuted //loads of people.// M944: //And they seen how// sadistic people //could be, but they were// F943: //Yeah, and// //And they were like totally// M944: //told them [laugh].// F943: freakin out and like some of them were like cryin and had nervous breakdowns and stuff //afterwards.// M944: //Yeah.// F943: You would never be able to do that now. M944: No no but that's kind of unethical because it's //people are breakin down.// F943: //But na, cause// //then you're not allowed you're not allowed// M944: //We're not gonna have a breakdown. [laugh]// F943: to deceive people //in psychological tests any more.// M944: //Ah// F943: Cause that's //all ethical and stuff// M944: //That's when they're// but they're most honest. F943: And the only way you can deceive them is if you make them sign a consent form so that they will be in an experiment and then they accept that they might be deceived. M944: But that's rubbish. That's like giving the game away. F943: But exactly, you go- you have to do it now. You've got to have written consent for everything. M944: I just thought about this. I was just trying to think what this //would be.// F943: //[laugh] What// what co- what could she rope us into? M944: [laugh] F943: Mmhm M944: No, I'm sure it's not-, nothing to do with that though. F943: I don't think [CENSORED: forename]'s got the intellect to do that. Twenty-two minutes. M944: [laugh] No, I'm not lookin at that. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh] Twenty-three minutes.// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh] We should ha- for the next thirty seconds say "The time// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //sponsored by Accurist",// //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// M944: and they'll love it! //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //Ah those little future freaks'll be sitting// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// F943: //going [laugh]// "The time sponsored by //Accurist will be twenty-three// M944: //No. But. [laugh]// //[laugh] I'll do the boops.// F943: //thirty. Boop, boop, boop."// M944: And you can talk. Naw, we //[inaudible]// F943: //[laugh] What is that like our take on "retard", re-// M944: That reminds me, Naw. "Tard". //No, but you see, do you know what I've also noticed "tard" can also be [laugh], "tard" can also be short for "bastard".// F943: //[laugh] [laugh]// //That's true.// M944: //[laugh]// [laugh] //[laugh] It wasn't a discovery.// F943: //Aha! [laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] It was just something I// //realised.// F943: //Well no, cause if it's a// discovery then you can call her a "tard" and she'll think you're calling her "retard", but really you're one up cause you're calling her a "bastard". M944: Yeah and that's not the offence. Being called a "retard"'s more offensive than being a "bastard". Cause I like wouldn't mind being called something that means you don't know who your dad was. //Right?// F943: //Yeah.// M944: But being called a "retard" questions your intelligence. F943: That's true. //Cause at least, you know, "bastard"'s like a term. It's not your fault you're a bastard.// M944: //[laugh] Yeah.// //And there's a lot o bastards// F943: //But if you're a retard, I mean,// Jesus Christ. M944: There's a lot of bastards that have got into high places. F943: That's true. M944: Look at Tony Blair. //You know he's a [inaudible]// F943: //Mm// M944: And there's there's many other people that are //bastards. George Bush.// F943: //[laugh] Hundr-// //Hundreds of them!// M944: //But, but// where has a retard got to a high place, //apart from George Bush?// F943: //Mm// //I don't think he's// M944: //But there's a [laugh]// F943: retarded; I just think he's really really stupid. //Like, "retarded"// M944: //But th-th-th- but!// F943: "retarded" means like to some extent you do have to have considerable brain damage of sorts. As in, George Bush is fuckin stupid but it doesn't mean his brain's about to leak out his ear, but like //[CENSORED: forename] for example.// M944: //"Stupid" "retard".// I suppose I know what you mean. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //The difference between "stupid" and "retard".// No, do you know what, I //acce-// F943: //[laugh] I like, I like that analogy. The difference between "stupid" and "retard" is the difference between George Bush and [CENSORED: forename].// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// No but ye- [exhale], yeah, I would find ru- I would prefer "bastard". But then she'll just call us "retard" all over again. F943: Aye and then she would come up with some other cruel way to damage you or d-d- scratch at you with her pterodactyl claws. M944: Everyone, everyone she meets, well I've, just to me, she'll ruin the image. If it's a girl guaranteed she'll say, "This is [CENSORED: forename]. Watch out. He'll hit on you", and that's such bullshit. //And every- no no no I mean it. Everyone.// F943: //Aw [laugh]// M944: So they all laugh the minute they meet you, and if you say anything innocent, like "Oh, so how do you know [CENSORED: forename]?", it's like "The chat-up line!" //You know it's like "Haw haw haw, he's tryin to..."// F943: //[laugh]// M944: And I'm like, wh- what's goin on [CENSORED: forename], "Nothing, I just told them that you'll try to..." and I was like "You bitch". F943: [laugh] //Consider yourself lucky;// M944: //And it it// F943: i- "this is like, this is my little sister", and then she stands in front of me and keeps talkin. M944: Who? F943: [CENSORED: forename]. M944: Little sister? F943: She just calls me "little sister", stands in front of me and keeps talkin. //[laugh]// M944: //No way!// She covers you, like she kind of like ho- //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// M944: From who? F943: From everyone. First time I met [CENSORED: forename] she stood in front of me. M944: Really? //Stands i-, like, it's like a thing she's always done?// F943: //Yeah. Yeah.// M944: She never stood in front of me when I first met you. F943: Well that's probably cause I am her little sister and the only, like, line she could give me is "Beware, he hits on girls", bit. I'm big enough to look after myself. Cause I would kill you. //[laugh]// M944: //Oh back then it was hit girls?// Was it back then was it "hit girls"? F943: Hit on girls. //[laugh]// M944: //Oh oh see what I'm talkin about? [laugh]// F943: [laugh] //But she never gave me that// M944: //[exhale]// F943: cause, you know, I'm [CENSORED: forename]'s little sister, //I can kick booty.// M944: //I don't ever hit, and she knows// I never ever ever hit on g-, ever, it's just not my thing. It is true, because it's, it just makes you like every other, eh, it's ju- you know every other [inaudible] does that kind of //thing and I I// F943: //[laugh] Other f-// M944: No no, it's true. Y- you just talk like normal human beings and that's it. An I I think she just gets annoyed. Because she sees all the retards that I end up going out //with. [laugh]. And she's just jealous.// F943: //[laugh]// She's just jealous. M944: Yes. You know, //I'll have you know, when we f- when we first met// F943: //I I shall I shall make to tell her this. [laugh]// M944: she probably fancied me. //[laugh] [inaudible] [laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //An an I want the whole world to know that.// //An and and// F943: //[laugh]// M944: and I I s- //[inaudible] Yeah.// F943: //Di- did we ever tell you [CENSORED: forename] fancied [CENSORED: forename]?// M944: she's got, that's what it is. I'm telling you. F943: What would you do if that was what it really was? M944: Well, do you know, actually, //it wouldn't have happened. [laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //Conspiracy, conspiratory theory.// M944: //[laugh] [inaudible]// actually we have covered that with her. Cause I told her I would politely decline. //[laugh]// F943: //[tut] ah// M944: [laugh] No, sh- it was it was actually funny how we first I I we can't even remember how we first actually, how we first got to know each other. There's like a good gap of three weeks. F943: [laugh] M944: [laugh] Maybe something happened and we blotted it out of our memory. [laugh] //But [laugh] I-// F943: //Who knows? I- it could have been the influence of something.// M944: No, I don't know what, but Eh she, even [CENSORED: forename], I totally forgot. I didn't know who [CENSORED: forename] was. She told me about a year back, "Oh, [CENSORED: forename] is coming round. Do you remember? You know [CENSORED: forename]?" and I went "No". Remember? He's like one of us. //And I was like "No".// F943: //[laugh]// M944: "Gay guy?" "No". "Don't know." The only one I remember is her, me and [CENSORED: forename], and that's it. Which reminds me, I might be going to see her. //She's still with that retard boyfriend.// F943: //[laugh]// M944: That's not why I'm saying going to see, cause she //is still [inaudible] with her boyfriend.// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //No. [laugh]// //she's// F943: //Sure, sure.// M944: no no no she's cool, ehm but her boyfriend's a real- eh, him and me, I thought we got on, //and I// F943: //Mmhm// M944: still think we do, we do get on, so I've no reason to think otherwise, but, he found it f- strange how we're just mates. He couldn't accept it, he's like "Oh, he's gonna be tryin to hit on you or something like that." And you know, cause I //she used to say [inaudible]// F943: //Yeah, my boyfriend's like that// as well. "You can't live with boys. They're going to hit on you." And I was like "Er, I've seen these boys vomiting and being hungover. There's no way I want to go out with these boys." M944: But that's what I'm talking about. It's like erm, okay me and [CENSORED: forename]'s easy, me, [CENSORED: forename], [CENSORED: forename] even, [CENSORED: forename], //anyone.// F943: //Mmhm// M944: But this guy couldn't understand it. So he got really uncomfortable. I think he told, th- [CENSORED: forename] he told once, or something about it. And erm I I didn't know. So. //I I didn't I didn't really want to go round.// F943: //Lovely.// [laugh] M944: Cause she used to phone and say "drop round" [inaudible]. Alright, after work, I'll finish. And he used to come home and he used to look at me and he just went, you know, //like, "What are you doing here?", kind of thing.// F943: //Mmhm mmhm// M944: But we used to chat away. You know when I fi- when I went up [laugh] one time, banged on the door, no-one came to the door, but I knew someone was in. Banged on the door again. Letterbox opened. And he's like that "Who is it?" Like that. And I looked up and I said "It's me". And then I fo-, he opened the door, and went "Oh, [CENSORED: forename], sorry." Debt collectors after him. So he's like totally thinking I was some kind of debt collector coming round his house. He's like squandered something like twelve thousand pound, or something like //that.// F943: //Nice.// M944: He's one of those people who are like, probably about nineteen years, aye, he's nineteen years old I think. He's one of those people that, they try to do the whole erm into like //rock bands// F943: //Aw// M944: kind of thing. "I'm a manager". Bands that he does get, there's no contract involved, nothing. He just, they just, be with them, he arranges a few spots for them to play. somebody hijacks them. Over and over and over again. [cough] Cause he doesn't realise that you need a certain amount of respect before you can enter //that industry.// F943: //Yeah.// M944: You can't just waltz in, and //say a-// F943: //And be like "Eh, I'm here".// M944: Yeah, and and look at my band. No-, you're not going to get any respect that //way.// F943: //Na, you've// got to build up like M944: Yeah, connections, //and th-// F943: //Yeah.// M944: this guy's not done that. So, he's totally wasting his money. He's got all these people after him, and we, me and [CENSORED: forename], always thought, why, how is it that, [inaudible]how is it that an intelligent girl can be with such an idiot? But I said to her, "But you've been with many idiots". //[laugh]// F943: //[CENSORED: forename] has been with many an idiot.// M944: Yeah, [CENSORED: forename] was with an idiot. Ehm, [CENSORED: forename] was with an //idiot.// F943: //Aw, no// see cause the difference between [CENSORED: forename]'s idiots and [CENSORED: forename]'s idiots is that [CENSORED: forename]'s idiots tend to be like tot- these are the total retards. That's the definition right there. //People like// M944: //[laugh]// F943: mm [CENSORED: forename] an, what's his name? //He had// M944: //[CENSORED: forename]?// F943: gay hair. M944: I don't I don't know I don't know anyone //before [CENSORED: forename].// F943: //No, he was he was before [CENSORED: forename].// M944: I'm //kind of pre-[CENSORED: forename].// F943: //And [CENSORED: forename],// they were the they were the real retards, and [CENSORED: forename] went out with psychos an cruel, cruel, horrible men. M944: Mmhm F943: And just general pricks. M944: I know, er the whole, yeah. There was two guys that she went out with, but the thing was, she made the mistake of, she was something like fourteen. F943: Mmhm M944: And the guy was like twenty-one. F943: Yeah. //[laugh]// M944: //There's something very sick there.// //So,// F943: //Wondering why.// M944: But that's what I'm talkin about, it's ehm, [exhale], it's er, wait a moment, what the hell was I talkin about? //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //It was.// M944: //This was going somewhere before we went down this path.// F943: It was. Erm [laugh] erm [clicks fingers] Clever girls goin out with stupid boys! M944: [laugh] Brilliant. See, F943: Thank you, //thank you.// M944: //there you go.// There i- well, yeah, you're right. [CENSORED: forename]'s that guy. He was [inaudible], well it's not a clever thing to do, //to go out with a fourteen year old girl.// F943: //No.// M944: [laugh] //So,// F943: //[tut] [inhale]// M944: there you go. F943: So he's stupid. M944: No, there was another point I was makin //before that. You're meant to be keepin up.// F943: //No, there wasn't any. You were makin-. You were talkin about// what's-her-chops. And M944: What's-her-chops? //[laugh] Who the hell says "What's-her-chops"?// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// F943: //I say it.// M944: You Stirling bird! //[laugh]// F943: //I've been in Stirling// for a month and a half. I'm not n- I'm not a Stirling bird yet. //I have a different accent when I'm in Stirling.// M944: //[laugh]// //Really? How?// F943: //Yeah,// I I live with like six girls from Ayrshire, //An I always// M944: //Right.// F943: pick up their accents, well I'm singin all the time when I'm speakin. They speak funny. M944: Like how? F943: They always sound really excited about everything they say, and they get really frightening when they're drunk. M944: Like how? //[laugh]// F943: //Like [laugh]// //like when they s-// M944: //Talk, damn it!// //Talk. [laugh]// F943: //[laugh] Like when they're talkin about like if// they're talkin about [CENSORED: forename]'s dressing bein- gown bein purple, they're "Her dressing-gown's purple!" And you'd just be like What? You know, kind of lean back in suspense //of what's goin on.// M944: //People in Ayr don't talk like that.// F943: They do! All the girls I live with do, an M944: I knew one person from //Ayr, and he was a boring bastard.// F943: //an one girl// one girl, like a ned on campus, was startin on one of the boys in our corridor, who's a bit weasly. An [CENSORED: forename] was drunk and she went in front of him and went "You listen up here!" "I'm gonna mash you if you come near him!" //It would sound stupid if anyone else said it, like "I'm going to mash you."// M944: //What [laugh]// //[laugh] [sniff]// F943: //She said it and this girl crapped herself and ran away.// M944: Mash? //[laugh]// F943: //"I'm gonna mash you."// M944: [laugh] "I'm gonna bust your chops." F943: [laugh] M944: [laugh] //It's something that,// F943: //[laugh]// M944: you know, //an actor out of a forties film would say.// F943: //a-a-a- another one// //Yeah, and another one of their favourite ones is erm "I'm gonna chip yer ma".// M944: //But it's good.// "Chip"? You mean "chib"? F943: No, they say "chip". M944: You know what a "chib" is? F943: Yes. M944: Like F943: Yes, //dear.// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh] I wanna make sure. You're from down the Borders.// F943: //[laugh] Not, [laugh] not// not so young as not to know. M944: Yeah? F943: Mmhm M944: So that, and, what was the other stupid thing? F943: I can't remember. What were we talkin about? M944: I don't know. It's re- we're running out of relevant, well, //irrelevant things to say.// F943: //[laugh]// Well we did start off talking about bridges. M944: Do you know what's so wrong? Do you know what? Do you know what it is? F943: What? M944: It could so be an experiment to see [laugh] what people talk about if they're, //no it wouldn't, not if they// F943: //No, no, cause// M944: if if their if their conversation was restricted, cause normally the stuff we talk about would be quite lurid. //There's a lot of swearing, a lot of [inaudible] there's a lot of, it's scandal,// F943: //Yeah, and we're we're havin to be quite refined.// M944: and stuff like that, and it involves people who we immediately know. Actually, mainly [CENSORED: forename]. F943: Mainly. M944: Because that's been chopped, it's crap. //Because it// F943: //It is.// Cause our conversation tends to be of the ehm M944: Slaggin her, kind F943: Yeah, slaggin off [CENSORED: forename], talkin random crap and bein a bit //[?]inebriated[/?].// M944: //Offensive.// F943: an offensive, you know, so M944: We're actually being made to talk like old people. F943: I know. It would what would be happenin if I was in a bomb shelter with you. M944: No. //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// M944: //[?]I knew that.[/?]// //[laugh]// F943: //[laugh]// Civilised conversation. M944: No, if we were in a bomb shelter together, it wouldn't be like this. //It would be nicer.// F943: //On the on the// first night. [laugh] M944: [laugh] Oh so as we got to know each other //better// F943: //[laugh]// //Before I killed you. [laugh]// M944: //things'll happen. [laugh]// //Arr [laugh] I'm getting annoyed at hitting your knee. It's obviously not having an effect.// F943: //[laugh]// Why? Because you're not inflicting enough pain? //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh] Yes.// F943: [sniff] //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// //[laugh]// F943: //I'll just batter you.// I'm [CENSORED: forename]'s little sister. Of course I'll just //batter you.// M944: //You can't; you'd// ruin her research, cause I'd scream for help, and she'd come running in. F943: Oh oh no. We have done thirty-six minutes' worth. M944: What? F943: We've done thirty-six minutes' worth of talkin. M944: You're absolutely talkin crap. F943: We have talked for thirty-six minutes. M944: But we just looked at it five minutes ago. //An it was an it was// F943: //We didn't, we looked at it, we looked at it like// fifteen, twenty minutes ago. M944: No, it was only, like, something like ten minutes that had passed. F943: No that's when we were doin the Accurist //time bit.// M944: //Mm?// F943: And then we looked at it again and I counted a bit for a while, I think. M944: See this is the weird thing. It felt like we were falling into that mode where we can just keep talking about //irrelevant stuff.// F943: //Yeah.// M944: But maybe it's called being stoned. F943: [laugh] Maybe. //[laugh]// M944: //[laugh]// And we will leave it at that. This work is protected by copyright. All rights reserved. The SCOTS Project and the University of Glasgow do not necessarily endorse, support or recommend the views expressed in this document. Information about document and author: Audio Audio audience Adults (18+): For gender: Mixed Audience size: 2 Audio awareness & spontaneity Speaker awareness: Aware Degree of spontaneity: Spontaneous Special circumstances surrounding speech: Participants left unsupervised with no brief other than to talk naturally Audio footage information Year of recording: 2005 Recording person id: 810 Size (min): 36 Size (mb): 175 Audio setting Recording venue: Private house Geographic location of speech: Glasgow Audio relationship between recorder/interviewer and speakers Family members or other close relationship: Friend: Speakers knew each other: Yes Audio speaker relationships Friend: Known via mutual acquaintance: Audio transcription information Transcriber id: 718 Year of transcription: 2005 Year material recorded: 2005 Word count: 7307 Audio type Conversation: Participant Participant details Participant id: 943 Gender: Female Decade of birth: 1980 Educational attainment: Highers/A-levels Age left school: 17 Occupation: Student Place of birth: Edinburgh Region of birth: Midlothian Birthplace CSD dialect area: midLoth Country of birth: Scotland Place of residence: Selkirk Region of residence: Selkirk Residence CSD dialect area: Slk Country of residence: Scotland Father's occupation: IT Consultant Father's place of birth: Brighton Father's country of birth: England Mother's occupation: Fraud Investigator Mother's place of birth: Timmins Mother's country of birth: Canada Languages: Language: English Speak: Yes Read: Yes Write: Yes Understand: Yes Circumstances: All the time Language: Scots Speak: Yes Read: Yes Write: Yes Understand: Yes Circumstances: All the time Language: Spanish; Castilian Speak: Yes Read: Yes Write: Yes Understand: Yes Circumstances: In lectures Participant Participant details Participant id: 944 Gender: Male Decade of birth: 1980 Educational attainment: College Age left school: 16 Upbringing/religious beliefs: Islam Occupation: Unemployed Place of birth: Keighley Region of birth: West Yorkshire Country of birth: England Place of residence: Glasgow Region of residence: Glasgow Residence CSD dialect area: Gsw Country of residence: Scotland Father's occupation: Shop owner Father's country of birth: Kashmir Mother's occupation: Unemployed Mother's country of birth: Kashmir Languages: Language: English Speak: Yes Read: Yes Write: Yes Understand: Yes Circumstances: Home/ work/ everywhere Language: Urdu Speak: Yes Read: No Write: No Understand: Yes Circumstances: