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Scottish Parliament: Chamber Minutes Vol 4, no 56
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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting of the Parliament
Vol 4 No 56 (Revised) Session 1
Wednesday 5 March 2003
Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.
The meeting opened at 10.51 am.
1. Time for Reflection: This item was not taken.
2. Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) (Scotland) Scheme 2003: The Minister for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3958—That the Parliament agrees that the Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) (Scotland) Scheme 2003 (SSI 2003/87) be approved.
Richard Lochhead moved amendment S1M-3958.1 to motion S1M-3958—
Insert at end—
"but, in doing so, calls on ministers to bring forward where necessary measures that ensure that, in the event of any decommissioning scheme, onshore businesses receive their due payments, the needs of the crews are taken into account and fishing entitlement is secured for the benefit of our fishing communities, and that vessels taken out of the industry are available for other uses in order to provide opportunities for onshore businesses to undertake conversions."
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 44, Against 62, Abstentions 1).
The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 64, Against 44, Abstentions 1).
3. The Sea Fishing (Transitional Support) (Scotland) (No.2) Scheme 2003: The Minister for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3959—That the Parliament agrees that the Sea Fishing (Transitional Support) (Scotland) (No.2) Scheme 2003 (SSI 2003/116) be approved.
Richard Lochhead moved amendment S1M-3959.1 to motion S1M-3959—
Insert at end—
"but, in doing so, supports the views of the fishing industry, fishing communities and the Rural Development Committee that the overwhelming emphasis of any Scottish Executive aid package should be on transitional aid for the fleet and onshore sectors rather than the decommissioning of vessels, and urges ministers to respond positively to the proposals by industry representatives on how this can be best achieved."
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 45, Against 62, Abstentions 1).
The motion was then agreed to (DT)
4. Ministerial Statement: The Minister for Enterprise, Transport and Lifelong Learning made a statement on Building Better Transport.
5. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3983—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 1 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the draft Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (Exclusions and Exceptions) (Scotland) Order 2003.
The motion was agreed to (DT).
6. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3984—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 2 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Sheriff Court Fees Amendment Order 2003 (SSI 2003/97).
The motion was agreed to (DT).
7. Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill – Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3985—That the Parliament agrees that, during the Stage 3 proceedings on the Homelessness etc (Scotland) Bill, debate on each part of those proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion by the time-limits indicated (each time-limit being calculated from when Stage 3 begins and excluding any periods when the meeting of the Parliament is suspended)—
Groups 1 to 4 – no later than 1 hour
Groups 5 to 9 – no later than 2 hours
Motion to pass the Bill – no later than 2 hours 30 minutes.
The motion was agreed to.
8. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3991—That the Parliament agrees as a revision to the programme of business agreed on 26 February 2003—
Wednesday 5 March 2003
after—
"followed by Stage 3 of Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill"
insert—
"followed by Procedures Committee motion on its 1st Report 2003: Report on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Legislative Matters, Motions and Lodging Written Questions, on its 2nd Report 2003: Report on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Elections to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body and on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning the remit of the European Committee contained in its 4th Report 2002."
The motion was agreed to.
9. Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: The Bill was considered at Stage 3.
The following amendments were agreed to without division: 2 and 4.
The following amendments were agreed to by division—
1 (For 71, Against 22, Abstentions 0)
3 (For 67, Against 25, Abstentions 0)
6 (For 76, Against 25, Abstentions 0)
16 (For 77, Against 25, Abstentions 0)
The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)—
7 (For 19, Against 62, Abstentions 0)
8 (For 23, Against 68, Abstentions 0)
9 (For 32, Against 59, Abstentions 0)
5 (For 33, Against 61, Abstentions 0)
10 (For 29, Against 59, Abstentions 0)
12 (For 31, Against 59, Abstentions 0)
The following amendments were moved and, with the agreement of the Parliament, withdrawn: 15 and 17.
Other amendments were not moved.
10. Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: The Minister for Social Justice moved S1M-3778—That the Parliament agrees that the Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill be passed.
After debate, the motion was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 98, Against 0, Abstentions 10).
11. Procedures Committee, Report on Changes to Standing Orders concerning the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner, European Committee remit, Private Legislation, Temporary Conveners and the Journal of the Scottish Parliament, Report on Changes to Standing Orders concerning Legislative Matters, Motions and Lodging Written Questions, Report on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Elections to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body: Murray Tosh, on behalf of the Procedures Committee, moved S1M-3971—That the Parliament approves the recommendations for amendments to the Standing Orders of the Parliament (a) concerning the remit of the European Committee contained in the Procedures Committee’s 4th Report 2002, Changes to Standing Orders concerning the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner, European Committee remit, Private Legislation, Temporary Conveners and the Journal of the Scottish Parliament (SP Paper 665), (b) contained in the Procedures Committee’s 1st Report 2003, Changes to Standing Orders concerning Legislative Matters, Motions and Lodging Written Questions (SP Paper 783) and (c) contained in the Procedures Committee’s 2nd Report 2003, Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Elections to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (SP Paper 787) and agrees that these amendments to the Standing Orders should come into force on Thursday 6 March 2003.
After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT).
12. Decision Time: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved without notice that, under Rule 11.2.4 of Standing Orders, Decision Time on Wednesday 5 March 2003 be taken at 4.43 pm.
The motion was agreed to.
13. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 2, 4, 5, 9 and 10 as noted above.
14. European Commission Directive on Food Supplements: The Parliament debated S1M-3830 in the name of Ms Margo MacDonald—That the Parliament notes that millions of people use food supplements and herbal remedies in the UK each year; regrets that the European Commission has published a directive on food supplements that will firstly reduce the numbers of supplements offered and secondly reduce the potency of those which remain, and, whilst noting Her Majesty’s Government’s assurances that such supplements will be treated as favourably as possible under UK law, considers that the Scottish Executive should do everything within its power to protect the right of consumers to continue to access the full range of supplements currently available.
The meeting was suspended from 5.01 pm to 5.29 pm
15. Motion without Notice: Alex Johnstone, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved without notice that the Parliament agrees under Rule 2.7.2 of Standing Orders, that for the purposes of completing Members’ Business on Wednesday 5 March 2003, the Meeting of the Parliament shall be held in Committee Room 1, Committee Chambers.
The motion was agreed to.
16. Motion without Notice: Ms Margo MacDonald moved without notice that, under Rule 8.14.3 of Standing Orders, the debate be extended for up to 15 minutes.
The motion was agreed to.
The meeting closed at 6.26 pm.
P E Grice
Clerk of the Parliament
5 March 2003
Meeting of the Parliament
Vol 4 No 56 (Revised) Session 1
Wednesday 5 March 2003
Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.
The meeting opened at 10.51 am.
1. Time for Reflection: This item was not taken.
2. Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) (Scotland) Scheme 2003: The Minister for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3958—That the Parliament agrees that the Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) (Scotland) Scheme 2003 (SSI 2003/87) be approved.
Richard Lochhead moved amendment S1M-3958.1 to motion S1M-3958—
Insert at end—
"but, in doing so, calls on ministers to bring forward where necessary measures that ensure that, in the event of any decommissioning scheme, onshore businesses receive their due payments, the needs of the crews are taken into account and fishing entitlement is secured for the benefit of our fishing communities, and that vessels taken out of the industry are available for other uses in order to provide opportunities for onshore businesses to undertake conversions."
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 44, Against 62, Abstentions 1).
The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 64, Against 44, Abstentions 1).
3. The Sea Fishing (Transitional Support) (Scotland) (No.2) Scheme 2003: The Minister for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3959—That the Parliament agrees that the Sea Fishing (Transitional Support) (Scotland) (No.2) Scheme 2003 (SSI 2003/116) be approved.
Richard Lochhead moved amendment S1M-3959.1 to motion S1M-3959—
Insert at end—
"but, in doing so, supports the views of the fishing industry, fishing communities and the Rural Development Committee that the overwhelming emphasis of any Scottish Executive aid package should be on transitional aid for the fleet and onshore sectors rather than the decommissioning of vessels, and urges ministers to respond positively to the proposals by industry representatives on how this can be best achieved."
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 45, Against 62, Abstentions 1).
The motion was then agreed to (DT)
4. Ministerial Statement: The Minister for Enterprise, Transport and Lifelong Learning made a statement on Building Better Transport.
5. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3983—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 1 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the draft Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (Exclusions and Exceptions) (Scotland) Order 2003.
The motion was agreed to (DT).
6. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3984—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 2 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Sheriff Court Fees Amendment Order 2003 (SSI 2003/97).
The motion was agreed to (DT).
7. Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill – Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3985—That the Parliament agrees that, during the Stage 3 proceedings on the Homelessness etc (Scotland) Bill, debate on each part of those proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion by the time-limits indicated (each time-limit being calculated from when Stage 3 begins and excluding any periods when the meeting of the Parliament is suspended)—
Groups 1 to 4 – no later than 1 hour
Groups 5 to 9 – no later than 2 hours
Motion to pass the Bill – no later than 2 hours 30 minutes.
The motion was agreed to.
8. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3991—That the Parliament agrees as a revision to the programme of business agreed on 26 February 2003—
Wednesday 5 March 2003
after—
"followed by Stage 3 of Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill"
insert—
"followed by Procedures Committee motion on its 1st Report 2003: Report on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Legislative Matters, Motions and Lodging Written Questions, on its 2nd Report 2003: Report on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Elections to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body and on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning the remit of the European Committee contained in its 4th Report 2002."
The motion was agreed to.
9. Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: The Bill was considered at Stage 3.
The following amendments were agreed to without division: 2 and 4.
The following amendments were agreed to by division—
1 (For 71, Against 22, Abstentions 0)
3 (For 67, Against 25, Abstentions 0)
6 (For 76, Against 25, Abstentions 0)
16 (For 77, Against 25, Abstentions 0)
The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)—
7 (For 19, Against 62, Abstentions 0)
8 (For 23, Against 68, Abstentions 0)
9 (For 32, Against 59, Abstentions 0)
5 (For 33, Against 61, Abstentions 0)
10 (For 29, Against 59, Abstentions 0)
12 (For 31, Against 59, Abstentions 0)
The following amendments were moved and, with the agreement of the Parliament, withdrawn: 15 and 17.
Other amendments were not moved.
10. Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: The Minister for Social Justice moved S1M-3778—That the Parliament agrees that the Homelessness etc. (Scotland) Bill be passed.
After debate, the motion was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 98, Against 0, Abstentions 10).
11. Procedures Committee, Report on Changes to Standing Orders concerning the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner, European Committee remit, Private Legislation, Temporary Conveners and the Journal of the Scottish Parliament, Report on Changes to Standing Orders concerning Legislative Matters, Motions and Lodging Written Questions, Report on Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Elections to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body: Murray Tosh, on behalf of the Procedures Committee, moved S1M-3971—That the Parliament approves the recommendations for amendments to the Standing Orders of the Parliament (a) concerning the remit of the European Committee contained in the Procedures Committee’s 4th Report 2002, Changes to Standing Orders concerning the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner, European Committee remit, Private Legislation, Temporary Conveners and the Journal of the Scottish Parliament (SP Paper 665), (b) contained in the Procedures Committee’s 1st Report 2003, Changes to Standing Orders concerning Legislative Matters, Motions and Lodging Written Questions (SP Paper 783) and (c) contained in the Procedures Committee’s 2nd Report 2003, Changes to Standing Orders Concerning Elections to the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (SP Paper 787) and agrees that these amendments to the Standing Orders should come into force on Thursday 6 March 2003.
After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT).
12. Decision Time: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved without notice that, under Rule 11.2.4 of Standing Orders, Decision Time on Wednesday 5 March 2003 be taken at 4.43 pm.
The motion was agreed to.
13. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 2, 4, 5, 9 and 10 as noted above.
14. European Commission Directive on Food Supplements: The Parliament debated S1M-3830 in the name of Ms Margo MacDonald—That the Parliament notes that millions of people use food supplements and herbal remedies in the UK each year; regrets that the European Commission has published a directive on food supplements that will firstly reduce the numbers of supplements offered and secondly reduce the potency of those which remain, and, whilst noting Her Majesty’s Government’s assurances that such supplements will be treated as favourably as possible under UK law, considers that the Scottish Executive should do everything within its power to protect the right of consumers to continue to access the full range of supplements currently available.
The meeting was suspended from 5.01 pm to 5.29 pm
15. Motion without Notice: Alex Johnstone, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved without notice that the Parliament agrees under Rule 2.7.2 of Standing Orders, that for the purposes of completing Members’ Business on Wednesday 5 March 2003, the Meeting of the Parliament shall be held in Committee Room 1, Committee Chambers.
The motion was agreed to.
16. Motion without Notice: Ms Margo MacDonald moved without notice that, under Rule 8.14.3 of Standing Orders, the debate be extended for up to 15 minutes.
The motion was agreed to.
The meeting closed at 6.26 pm.
P E Grice
Clerk of the Parliament
5 March 2003
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