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these long complex continental histories[click][inhale] now robert lindsay of
histories in the sixteenth century[click][inhale] now the prose writers
the er scottish histories then[click][inhale] [student cough] the sixteenth century
histories by leslie and lindsay[click]so in fact the later
histories [click] they tell stories[click]so you get the rise
sixteenth century are the histories[click]they tell stories [click] so
reliance on speech speech rhythms[click][inhale] and the newer continental
very much the continental model[click][inhale] erm [click] leslie was
continental model [click] [inhale] erm[click]leslie was a man of
native or the continental camp[click]so they re either following
this is a justified assassination[click][inhale] knox of- often gets
to pitscottie than to leslie[click][inhale] knox s history this
knox is trying to achieve[click][inhale] so the murder of
angels appear [laugh] m642: [inhale][click]a hundred a hundred and
a feminine complement [inhale] erm[click]and the prose style is
s not valued at all[click][inhale] and as i said
the charters written in scots[click][inhale] and at this point
catholic campbell m608: mmhm m078: [click][inhale] and ehm this sense
actually blends the two styles[click][inhale] and he blends the
the prose for biblical translation[click][inhale] and on your handout
continent erm became the norm[click][inhale] and one of the
cast chests against the door[click][inhale] and some of the
read rather than listened to[click][inhale] and the prose style
the n plural for een[click][inhale] and there are th-
do the translation for him[click][inhale] and this activity grows
beginning of the seventeenth century[click][inhale] and what i was
the late fourteenth century on[click][inhale] and when it starts
of a multilingual linguistic situation[click][inhale] as the merchant classes
scribbles things in the margins[click][inhale] at one point the
re written to be read[click][inhale] at their more at
from old english prose writing[click][inhale] before the norman conquest
these great big long periods[click][inhale] but staying in the
what are called complex sentences[click][inhale] but we don t
s much looser poetic version[click][inhale] chaucer uses a fair
is what begins to happen[click][inhale] ehm [click] something like
became the word for cash[click][inhale] er another interesting trivial
rhythms and co ordinate clauses[click][inhale] er c s lewis
basically make me a bishop[click][inhale] erm c s lewis
for mary queen of scots[click][inhale] erm he presented it
is why should this be[click][inhale] first of all er
instead of the catholic case[click][inhale] his ideology is different
anglo saxon history before it[click][inhale] however if you take
pam to rain lightly f1024: [click][inhale] i ve got drizzle
round about the same time[click][inhale] i want to point
happens when people translate texts[click][inhale] if you re taking
a very sophisticated prose style[click][inhale] if you ve done
sermons were written in latin[click][inhale] in england there are
pitscottie writes prose in scots[click][inhale] in pitscottie in particular
this kind of history writing[click][inhale] in this extract we
a language of official record[click][inhale] latin was also for
to tell a good story[click][inhale] now a couple of
keeped twa handed and freend[click][inhale] now as we said
fy fy all is gone[click][inhale] now if you take
page [click] murder to read[click][inhale] now one of the
the speech of our ancestors[click][inhale] now there are similarities
because of his unrighteous deeds[click][inhale] now you don t
abroad in hotel bedrooms erm[click][inhale] often you get this
the protestant way of writing[click][inhale] one of my favourite
of colloquial co ordinate structure[click][inhale] periodic sentences became more
so that if given that[click][inhale] so er the text
write it in octosyllabic couplets[click][inhale] so for various reasons
to the reader as well[click][inhale] so the complex period
a nice long periodic sentence[click][inhale] so the style shifts
be influenced by the latin[click][inhale] so these are the
scotland round about 1577 79[click][inhale] so these are two
is a scots erm feature[click][inhale] so they re both
the structure of the language[click][inhale] so translated frenchified and
sic thingis sould be knawin[click][inhale] that s a fantastic
the merchant classes can read[click][inhale] the acts of parliament
english and scottish written texts[click][inhale] the french influence substantially
intricate relationship between the clauses[click][inhale] the idea about a
have it read to them[click][inhale] the romance would probably
ye will not slay me[click][inhale] the said johnne leslye
of london rotting wanting out[click][inhale] the scots activist a
through the older scots period[click][inhale] the second thing in
much easier to listen to[click][inhale] then the great batell
red and head the nochtwithstanding[click][inhale] there are scots grammatical
eh the punctuation is modernised[click][inhale] this is the kind
that you associate with speech[click][inhale] this kind of written
so what could they follow[click][inhale] well generally you can
scots by the mid 1500s[click][inhale] what i m suggesting
a handout there you go[click][inhale] what we re going
one sentence half a page[click]murder to read [click] [inhale]
to happen [click] [inhale] ehm[click]something like this process is
er not just of the[click]sixteenth and seventeenth centuries but
was going underneath the m608: [click]m194: people goin tae tae
wages and that was- m608: [click]m194: uh that wasn t
eh loch [inaudible] m608: mmhm[click]mm m194: so they could
be a transit camp m608: [click]right m194: and that s
the airforcemen slept there m608: [click]right m194: but then they
just a wooden ramp m608: [click]right m194: the w- the
in the the aircraft erm[click]the barges m608: yup m194:
things like and or but[click]so that s one model
er the history of scotland[click]erm he wrote this history
scots five hundred years ago[click]you re getting these french
the natural medium for writing[click]after the norman period begins
and maths and so on[click]ehm so m608: mm m078:
in ayr as well m642: [click]oh very much so m608:
of of the time m608: [click]we re going to have
er you know just erm[click]confrontation how ignorant then or
t have been that important[click]erm i don t know
the kind of the erm[click]the [?]delighten[/?] sound i think
f1025: mmhm f1054: funny words[click]ehm what aboot er er
of the queen s party[click]er the word sook might
m078: from the norm ehm[click]so part of the er
of of of 1798 ehm[click]eh james hi- quigley was
m1007: somebody who is ehm[click]quick witted there s many
reading scots m055: [tut] eh[click]i think th- there is
it s because of subtitles[click]that is the kind of
and round f1089: [cough] m1090: [click]cars f1089: don t go
of the governance of princes[click]these treatises were translated from
of word order for example[click]and eh y- do you
wasn t working too well[click]so he writes a fourth
take place at that time[click]now the tradition of scottish
you much the same f1024: [click]i think i d be
it was pretty good f631: [click]f689: and everybody was impressed
pretty good f1009: [cough] m1055: [click]moody f1009: [um] i had
f810: the [?]k-cards[/?] yeah f809: [click]that was quite a good
than the anglo saxon text[click]it s interesting to take
rather than listening to it[click]all thingis necessarie for the
doing and i said well[click]i m bringing up the
the people come to scotland[click]and then the ability to
on modern irish poetry m741: [click]oh right cool m605: and
f- to be a priest[click]and there would be some
in many ways there are[click]direct references obviously to god
in scotland become more powerful[click]there s an increasing demand
that was fine but em[click]f631: and did you go
just pick it up again[click]stick it on m819: i
and when it s over[click][clicks fingers] you get a full
henryson s orpheus and eurydice[click]and you can compare it
show you your snaps sam[click]he says i showed them
aw that s cute f646: [click]but oh no i loved
huh f646: [inaudible] the mowdy[click]but the man wi the
crack a joke maybe f807: [click]f806: but in australia not
does horsie say m1094: [click clock click clock][click]f1093: i can see it
s alright f809: okay f810: [click]and the uni s givin
never forget it she says[click]willie he was sittin cradlin
wheel kicked up on f643: [click]m642: to the kerbing f643:
the air in ye know[click]that s why i say
identified with an increasing anglicisation[click]that the reformers won significantly

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